You wouldn't think that Drake is a common name. I don't encounter it very often and yet I descend from three separate people named Drake who came to this country, only two of whom were related (or at least, can be proven so). The other Drake family comes from Halstead in Essex, England. Isabel Drake accompanied her husband John Smith alias Bland to Watertown, Mass. Her brother, Robert Drake went to Hampton, New Hampshire and I descend from his two sons, Abraham and Nathaniel.
Which brings us to John Drake of Windsor, Conn., another of my ancestors. He appears in my bogus gateway ancestor list because for years he was thought to be of the same gentry Drake family as Sir Francis Drake. He's not. And to my mind this has been proven, and yet there continues to be debate on the subject. Part of this problem rests with my friend Doug Richardson. He's a great genealogist that has put colonial genealogical research on the shelf to pursue medieval genealogy full time. He never published an important article on the origins of John Drake of Windsor, though he found them. Because it is his story to tell, I've never told it, although I feel partially responsible for noting it on the Internet.
So apart from knowing that John Drake of Windsor is from Warwickshire and not Devonshire and therefore not royal, I still read how people are still claiming this and still trying to prove this. Even if you were unaware of Doug's research, there are two great articles by Robert Charles Anderson that show there were two John Drakes in early New England. The most damning piece of evidence, to my mind, is that John Drake of Windsor is referred to as Goodman Drake. If he were part of the gentry family, he would have been called Mr. Drake. There is no doubt in my mind that seals the deal. I have several ancestors of provable royal descent and I shall attempt to see how they were treated in colonial records.
Interestingly, I descend from the second Mrs. Drake whose name is given as Elizabeth Rogers. I finally found the genesis of that claim. It appears in a 1731 memoir by her great-grandson. See New York Genealogical & Biographical Record 2 (1871):99-101. Other than his statement there is no corroborating evidence to her maiden name. Yet.
Martin,
I have looked at some Ancestry.com public family trees that include this same John Drake 1590-1659. I've found that many if not all of these trees list his father as John Rogers 1507 - 1555. It Is interesting that John Drake's birth date is listed as 45 years after his father's death. Is there a missing generation in this tree? Do you happen to know why the name change from Rogers to Drake?
Posted by: Dave | 03/07/2010 at 02:43 PM
I would say that those trees are unreliable. Possibly someone confused Drake and Rogers because that is the name of John Drakes second wife. His parents are unknown at this time.
Posted by: Martin Hollick | 03/07/2010 at 03:41 PM
Robert Charles Andderson for some reason was bent on proving that John of Windsor was not part of the Devonshire Drakes. As for your dambing peace of evidnce being John was refered to as good man and not Mr. there are somethings to concider. #1. First of all Sir John of Ashe was his great grandfather. My great grandfather was in the civil war. What does that have to do with me? It doesn't make me speacial to anyone of give me any pirks. #2 Those people in Hartford were religious Christians who shunned British Royalty. As a Mormon whose ancestors gave up everything they had to go west to Utah Mr. Anderson should have understood what the Puritans were doing. #3. Mr. Anderson mentioned in his artical that Johns son was on record as having traveled to Piscadaway. This may prove the point more that he was from Devonshire as the Drakes in that Thomas Drake in Piscadaway was part of the Devenshire genealogy. He was going to visit his cousins who were also from that area. My father told me things about my genealogy that you will not find on the internet. I and several others have copies of a 10 page family letter about our line which comes from John of Windsor.
Posted by: Drake Shihan | 07/17/2010 at 02:15 AM
I will be posting a full response to your comment on Tuesday, July 20th.
Posted by: Martin Hollick | 07/17/2010 at 09:24 AM