The Royal Line of Rose (Stoughton) Otis 1629-ca. 1677 of Dover, N.H.

From the moment I saw this chart 30 years ago in the N.Y. Public Library, I thought--wow, how cool.  Eventually I became with Douglas Richardson, James L. and Loretta-Marie Dimond, one of the researchers to prove the royal line for Rose (Stoughton) Otis.  We have been working on this, on and off, for the last ten years or so.  Rose is special to me because I descend from her twice, and one of the lines is through her daughter Martha (Otis) Pinkham.  I can't remember when I first gave this line to Gary Boyd Roberts or Doug Richardson.  It's in Gary's Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants (2006 and 2008).  It's not in Richardson's Plantagenet Ancestry (PA, 2004), but was included in Magna Carta Ancestors (MCA, 2005).  After breaking through on one part of the line which guaranteed a Lewkenor descent for the Stoughtons, we ran into an immediate problem in the next generation.  The visitations noted a West descent (the Lords Le Warr) which would bring a royal line from Henry III.  However, the chronology didn't work well.  It was very strained, so I held off writing it up as an article.  I came back to it at one point and after reading the very long will of Sir Thomas West (8th Lord La Warr) of 1526, he named "Edmund Lewkenor, my kinsman and servant." [PCC 2 Porche],  I knew the Wests and Lewkenors were related, but how?  And could it be proven?

Doug Richardson and Google Books (again), solved the problem.  As is generally the case, the concept was correct, but the details were hazy.  That is, when doing medieval genealogy, some of what is given in the pedigrees is true, but very likely garbled.  There are two successive Roger Lewkenors, one a knight and the other an esquire (his son).  The visitations and pedigrees got their wives confused.  However, in a great find, Doug noted this article from The Journal of the British Archaeological Association from 1874 (Volume 30, p. 59-61).  Suddenly there were good death and birth records for three generations of Lewkenors in Trotton and Tangmere.  The accuracy of the dates can be considered impeccable because the children of Edmund and Joan (Tyrrell) Lewkenor are in the parish registers of Tangmere (personally checked by me) and the dates match spot on for each child.  So, combined with wills, we can now sort out the generations and solve the timeline problems.  I'll present a generation by generation break down with footnotes in a separate posting.  The critical generations now look like this:

• Sir Thomas Lewkenor m. 1st Philippa Dalyngridge m. 2nd Elizabeth Echingham.  By 1st wife:
• Sir Roger Lewkenor m. 1st Eleanor Camoys; m. 2nd Mary West, the daughter of  Reynold West, the 6th Lord le Warr and Margaret Thorley; m. 3rd Katherine Chidiock.  By 2nd wife:
• Roger Lewkenor, Esquire m. Anne (---)
• Edmund Lewkenor, Esquire m. Joan Tyrrell, who m. 2nd John Gunter, Esquire
• Elizabeth Lewkenor m. Thomas Stoughton, Esquire 1521-1578, the great-grandparents of Rose (Stoughton) Otis.

Comments

[Loretta-Marie and James L Dimond]

Martin, this is Loretta checking in. Can't believe it took us two months to find this post. We are delighted beyond all imagining that you and Doug have finally put Mary West et al together. Thanks for the ongoing credit. Ignore the naysayers. E-mail Jim at the invisible link sent with this post.

[Sfosse]

I, too, am connected to Martha (Otis) Pinkham through her son, Richard (Richard>Tristam>Tristam, Jr.>Richard>John Thomas>Emma C. Pinkham (Gr. Grandmother). I have been searching for years to find the family history for the Pinkham family, but I got stuck on one item, Emma's mother, Rebecca. You see, Emma is apparently half Penobscot Indian and I was searching for the Indian side, finding nothing.

[Sam Marie Rutherford]

I am also a descendant of Richard and Rose (Stoughton) Otis through their daughter Ann Otis. Ann married my ancestor Thomas Austin. Ann> Nathaniel> Andrew> John> James> Ira> Ralph> Mable Tobin> Richard> Jean Vickery> Keri> me.

[Ana Yannicelli]

I am doing my granddaughter family tree and from her father side she has Rose Stoughton and Richard Otis but I have inconsistency with some of the birth dates.
Rose/ Richard Otis > Judith Otis/ John Tuttle > Nicholas Tuttle/ Deborah Hunt >George Tuttle/Catherine Stevens > Rebecca Tuttle/James Collins McKinney > Margaret McKinney/ John Ferguson > Kelly Ferguson / Arisba McGinnis Amos > Edmund Ferguson/ Hester Brewer > Rachel Ferguson / William White (Weiss) > William Everett White / Sarah Mitchell > Adena Eloise White / William Andrew Brown > Sally Elizabeth Brown / Julius Trottier.......
I really appreciate if any person has the some information about this line.
Thank you